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May122010

sitcom rejection from a mother of sons

If your husband is a knuckle-dragging oaf who can only please you with unsolicited vacuuming, what does that make you?

REASONABLE HANDCRAFTED FACSIMILE.

The male appendage is kind of goofy. Fair enough. If it wasn’t, we wouldn’t call it a schlong. This one time, in the ski patrol hut, I saw one shaped into an interpretive sculpture of a squirrel riding a bicycle. But is appendage goofiness transferrable? Is every dad and husband reduceable to what we see on sitcoms? Does that not then reduce us to the shrill, lazy-thinking harpies we see on sitcoms?

Women who engage in such reduction make me want to trade in my vagina.

This isn’t meant to be some kind of denial. Some men leave the seat up. Some women get uppity about it. Others judge the goodness of their partners like you'd judge the goodness of a golden retriever. Doesn't piddle inappropriately - check. Refrains from sniffing the crotches of houseguests - check. Curls up in front of warm fire, snoring and farting adorably - check. Stinks after it rains - check. Trainable - check. Does domestic tricks for 'tummy' rubs - check.

The men I know are just as complex and flawed and generous and maddening as I am.

The long-suffering martyr wife is a dressing adopted to make women who feel unpowerful feel powerful. It’s rampant on the internet and on TV, and it reveals more about us than it does about them. It positions us as mothers of everyone: of our children as well as their fathers. Here I am again, we crow, teaching this oaf how to Do It My Way. Except that oaf isn't a kid. He's the guy you chose to marry despite his lack of an I Live To Do Things Your Way bumper sticker.

This isn't some kind of male defense. It's also not a scolding of women who'd rather not do all the vacuuming. It's a rejection of the sorority of Men And The Crap They Always Pull (Yuk Yuk Yuk).

When women proclaim Male Pattern Dumbness as if I'm supposed to snort and agree, I pause and think of my sons and the partners they'll encounter. I expect as much kindness for them as I do from them. They are as much kings as any girl would be queen and what that means is all things sensible. If husbands are obligated to behave exactly as we want them to, then we're obligated to offer the same. What would your ideal behaviour be, as defined by the man in your life?

We're grown-ups. We chose our partners -- every aspect of them -- just as they chose us. Everyone compromises. That's why they call it love. Inept men are not foisted upon all of superior womanhood along with an avalanche of dirty socks.

I don’t seek or expect solidarity based on gender. Especially if you say BUT GIRLS NEED TO LOVE EACH OTHER AND BAND TOGETHER AGAINST ALL THOSE KNUCKLE-DRAGGERS BECAUSE OMG THE TOILET SEAT.

I’ll adore you if you crack up at the same things that crack me up.

Like burps-on-demand.

That’s all.

 

Reader Comments (60)

A thousand times yes! I agree!

Also, any cultural trope that keeps Charlie Effing Sheen in work gets the thumbs down from me. I don't like him.
May 12, 2010 | Unregistered Commenterafteriris
Yay!!! I love raising our boys. I love our house full of boys, wrestling, trucks, burps and giggles after farts (because yes they are funny to a 6 yr old) and tenderness despite gender. (And toughness despite gender too) As for the toilet seat, there are 3 of them, 1 of me, who should be accomodated?
I hope my boys grow to be fair and kind to everyone, shlong or not. And find a wife who is the same. Appreciating and respecting the differences.
May 12, 2010 | Unregistered Commentermisty
You know, I'm SURE that someone could point the finger at me and say "Alison. You're a suckhole tryhard because you shout in agreement at everything that Kate Inglis says" and I would say "Not everything!" and then someone (someone who uses made up compound words) would show me the posts and tweets where I've nodded or exclaimed or sung your praises and then show me the ZERO posts where I've said something au contraire, and then I'd shrug defeated and make a bashful face into the camera like "got me this time. oops."

On topic: when someone says "oh, you've got him trained!", I'm kind of blown away. "Wh..what? Like... an elephant? At a circus?" It puzzles me, and it has given me this odd perception that a genuine equality in a marriage would ever even exist because Mr. Never Vacuums and Always Leaves the Toilet Seat Up would RUIN EVERYTHING. *This is sarcasm.* Women go out on these big tirades about how they want to be equal to their partners and have the same rights and respect and blah blah blah as their men. I'm not trying to squash division of labour. But it's a little dirty of women to stand up and say "I want 50/50!" and then have expectations that would match a little more along the lines of 95/5.

Now, of course, I'm not married, and my relationship is new, so there's no real experience talking here. But I have every intention not to be a nagger. The guy leaves the toilet seat up? I leave it DOWN all the time. What's the problem? His energy to put it down is very similar to the energy I'd need to put it up (except for gravity being on his side there). I really don't care. And I have a teenage brother. I don't care. Now, if my brother pees on the floor, that's just poor skill and I'm more ashamed that he's not ashamed of himself ;)

I remember making a similar comment on your Feminist Oaf's Manifesto. We all need different things. Maybe he needs to hold the door open. If I deny him of that, I'm being hypocritical. He's denying me of my need for independence? Psh. That's rubbish. Thank you, dear. Hold the door open all you like. Saves me from doing it. I just got my nails done and I'm taking no risks. ;)

So, short story: agreed.
May 12, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterAlison
It seems to be male bashing time on UK TV adverts at the moment. We have one for a computer ' So simple - Even dad could use it' and one for a horrible scented plug in air freshener that is on a time control. The man can't work out how to use it until the woman comes up behind and squirts it. There's loads - wives smugly showing the men how to load dishwashers, blah, blah, blah. My husband always says - if the gender roles were reversed on these - there would be an outcry. I agree with him. I don't listen on Twitter when women start denigrating. Or I unfollow.

The only bumbling Dad I want to watch is Homer Simpson. Although Sandra Shamas's line, 'My boyfriend's back and there's going to be laundry' does crack me up every time. Am I a traitor to the female race?
May 12, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterAlison, Brighton
I just love you. Preach it, Kate. xo
May 12, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterAngella
If we make fun of the people we choose to live with and love, it reveals more of ourselves than we may realize.
Respect goes both ways.
May 12, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterET
My google reader suggested I might enjoy your blog - it was right! I especially love this post. You have said it all, and so well. All I can add is: AMEN!
May 12, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterKimberley McGill
Kate, please, if you haven't already, watch this Target Women on doofy husbands:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7vtyheqPVU
May 12, 2010 | Unregistered Commenterpenelope
I'm so much more conscious of this now that I have my boys. And you're right - it's just awful. Got you some angry posts brewing this week, heh?

Kidding.

I think my personal most hated example of this is the cat food commercial where the thin lovely obviously childless woman has a cat that she loves and spoils... except that the "cat" is played by an effete man in a grey turtleneck. SO OFFENSIVE. It drives me nuts.

But yes, I agree, and it is terrible, and I don't want my boys to have low self-esteem because of the way dads / husbands are portrayed on TV. Because we all know what kind of men we get when boys are not raised to feel good about themselves and their abilities; we get the kind of men who think their power comes from their fists, and their anger.

I'm not raising that kind of husband. I AM raising the kind of husband who (I hope) will not assume that housework fairies take care of everything... (I wound up with one of those and am I teaching him that making a home takes everyone in the house? Why yes, I am. But if it were "training" I'd be able to reward him when he does good and whack him on the nose with a rolled-up newspaper when he doesn't.)

Anyway, digression. If only archetypes didn't exist in popular culture. If only we could just see each other as people instead of these weird, outmoded and insulting gender roles. Maybe someday. We can only hope.
May 12, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterHannah
I recently abandoned a 16 year relationship (11 of those married) because frankly we were both so focused on the training of the other that our relationship boiled down to a bitter contest of the wills to see who could infuriate who the fastest and worst. There was no listening followed by cooperation under duress. We couldn't make it work. No amount of online bitching by me or crotch scratching poker parties for him ever fixed that.

I now find myself ensconced in a relationship I have never dreamed could really exist. Mutual encouragement, acknowledgment that we are both terribly flawed human beings, heaping helpings of love, and a total of four little boys between us. Farting and just saying the word penis for fun passes many a hour around this place.

What I find will be my challenge is taking my 10 and 8 year old into my new mindset. Unfortunately the behaviors from my marriage have followed me out of it in the guise of my children. I treat them like their father. They treat me like he did. It's what we all know as how we live. It has to change.

I am hopeful this can happen, but not through proper training. But by leading them through life with a shining example of having dignity in themselves and recognizing the dignity in all others. Of course, I will encourage them to put the toilet seat down, but that is not how I will define the quality of their character. And I hope the future queens in their lives will do the same.

Excellent post. Thank you.
May 12, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterFruitlady
Fantastically said, Kate. "The men I know are just as complex and flawed and generous and maddening as I am."
Too bloody right.

And those photos are gorgeous.
May 12, 2010 | Unregistered Commentere.
Oh my god, Penelope, that's an incredible video. To see it all laid out like that... god. Makes me want to buy some steaks just from association guilt.
May 12, 2010 | Unregistered Commentersweetsalty kate
You truly have this inhuman ability to put things EXACTLY right Kate :) I can't stand women that harp at their husbands/boyfriends all the time. Isn't love about acceptance, and compromise, and damn it - general harmoniousness? Give me men to hang out with any day - no bullshit, no back stabbing...ah......makes me happy just thinking about it!!
May 12, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterJulie
Brad pointed out to me the other night while we were watching TV, that most of the commercials on TV make the men look like goofs. Like the beer drinking, goofy guy trying to get the girl...or the husband who doesn't know any better, let's make fun of Dad! ha ha! And I tried to think of any commercials that make women look stupid or dumb. Not really...
It's always the smart housewife who makes fun of her dopey husband...or the hot chick rejecting the geeky guy...
huh. I wonder why advertising has to be like that? It's too bad...paints an unfair picture for men, don't ya think? I have to agree with Brad on that one...usually I try to think of something to argue back...but this time I have to say my husband was right. ha ha.
I also have to agree with Alison about the toilet seat. They put it up and we put it down. Why should they put it down? I just can't stand the pee that misses the toilet! UGH! Then I have to clean it up!! I don't know if it's all men, but I think most don't clean the bathroom, ever! Or at least leave it till there's an ugly brown ring around the toilet or ring around the tub! Ugh!
Oh and I loved your comment about "This one time in a ski patrol hut..." *sigh* Takes me back. Good memories!
May 12, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterKelly
Living with another adult or with an adult and kids is hard work. I expect all adults and kids over an appropriate age to pull their weight. If you use dishes and expect clean ones then learn to load, start and unload the dishwasher - male or female. Failings on this sort of front aren't really down to gender. The same dynamic and moaning happens in households I know with stay at home dads. For me it is more about downgrading of domestic over outside the home work and one partner not valuing the other's role or being careless about it. If it matters to one side that the cans are alphabetised then go with it then you are more likely to get the loo seat put down! Other than that I agree with you entirely!
May 12, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterBetty M
Thank you for this. If ever there were a stereotype that was insulting to both genders, the bumbling oaf of a husband is it. Not only does it make men seem like they have no capacity for thought beyond "Get woman. Get beer. Watch ball game," it also provides this patronizing and dishonest message of, "It may look like men run things, ladies, but don't worry - we know who's really in control - the manipulative, game-playing, know-it-all women who enjoy working behind the scenes."

And I'm pretty sure that if there's any training going on in our house, the baby is doing it.
May 12, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterErica
I love this.

Who are we if we willingly accepted a man with all these "faults"? didn't WE decide to PROCREATE with this "oaf"? Think, Think then Speak.

My son will someday choose a girl. I can only hope she sees him for HIM.
May 12, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterMichelleRenee
Ha ha, I'm peeing all over this post, just because I can!

I have to be honest -- I've used these stereotypes in my own writing, not because I believe them, but because I believe society believes them. If I write a story about how I leave my socks on the floor, people laugh. But if I told you my reality -- that my wife is pretty sloppy and leaves the dishes on the couch, or that my mother was a mediocre cook, or that my father cleaned up as obsessively as Martha Stewart housewife, people would shake their heads in shame and NOT laugh. It is these stereotypes and expectations that screw us up.
May 12, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterNeil
As a mother of two (soon to be three) daughters, I'm working NOT to perpetuate this set of stereotypes in our home. It drives me nuts, the whole attitude that men are inept idiots who we need to train. So disrespectful, and how bizarre that women who would be incredibly offended if a man talked like that about them don't think twice about it. Of course, it helps that my husband/ the father of my girls is a competent man who pulls at least his own weight in our household. Although he does tend to drip pee in front of the toilet, he also cleans the bathroom.

Here's to loving our men, with all their flaws, in all their generosity and complexity.
May 12, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterGwen
Yep.
I do annoying shit.
So does he.
It's not because I'm the chick and he's the dude.
It's because we are humans, living in a set amount of sq. footage together under one roof with two kids and a dog and a cat and 15 years under our belt.
That's why.
PS Um, how did you know about my verbena poop?
May 12, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterMereMortal
This is lovely and I really needed to read it. Thank you.
May 12, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterKristyn
When I was a little girl (3-4) I remember going next door to these college girls' house and them babysitting me for my mom. I remember one of them carrying me around trying to get me to nap, dancing and singing softly. My little head was on her shoulder facing the kitchen cabinets. On one of the cabinets was a calendar with naked men in it ... this particular month showed a naked man windsurfing. I remember thinking how weird and funny it looked to me, this funny thing sticking off the front of this perfectly normal looking man.

Thank you for sticking up for those guys who are more than just oafs...and for the women who love them too. I think I would be totally turned off if that was the way I viewed my husband ... why talk or think that way about the person who is supposed to be your best friend?? And I never knew all my husband was able to accomplish until I got sick these past few months and he had to take care of most EVERYTHING because I was physically unable to. I always had confidence in his abilities, but we are partners and I have my role also. But he showed me how much of a good daddy and husband he can be ... and I am sooooo grateful to have him here with us ... not because I NEED him, but because I WANT him and LOVE him.
May 12, 2010 | Unregistered Commentertanya
i've never thought it all out like this (thank you for that) but i feel just the same. i don't think anyone should get a pass on behavior "women are like that" or "it's just what guys do". NO. i refuse. i am not a caricature, nor are the people i choose to be close to. own your behavior, and acknowledge that just as you have weird little tendencies, so do the other people in your life. it has nothing to do with their gender. and laughing at it really is the best!
May 12, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterLiz
Ouch

It wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for the fact that he thinks I'm supposed to be his mother. And like it.

I'm raising my son differently so that he won't need to be trained in the arts of just being a Responsible Adult Living Consciously With Others. I would HATE for his significant other to feel like he's a knuckle-dragging child. But, then again, I frequently think, "why don't WE have to be responsible for putting the toilet seat UP for THEM?"

Don't tell my husband I said that.

I think most men I've encountered in life just want the women in their lives to be everything to them as well as cook on a regular basis and perform the occasional blow job (or frequent, actually). From what I see and experience, most men are not their wives' equals when it comes to responsibility in a home and family. At all. It's disgustingly archaic and speaks to the previous generations' beliefs in gender roles, I think. At least that's where I place the blame for all of my nagging-bitchiness.
May 12, 2010 | Unregistered Commentermnkathy
My "oaf" didn't start with all this crap until the baby came into the picture. Wrong time. Terrible timing. So, I am *that* woman who is now raising a son, and a husband. Sorry, but they do exist, those husbands that need a wife-mother. Mine, is one of them. Unfortunately, he didn't reverse-mature until AFTER I had procreated. But I love them both...
May 12, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterA.
Am I the only one who sees this as a love letter to your man, the father of your boys?
May 12, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterCheryl Arkison
so true. Really, really good to read. I've been thinking about how I treat my husband more now that my sons are old enough to observe. There is a LOT I say and do that I would not approve of my daughter-in-law doing. It's a very convicting thought! Watched Penelope's video link, LOVED it :) thanks P
May 12, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterJen/LA
I meet with a group of women. We've met since our babies were two months old or so. They bitch about their spouses All The Time. And I always feel so strange about not participating. There is this bubble of expectation over everyone's head, waiting to hear my contribution to the group sing-along, 'We're Tearing Him a New One' ('And The Sex Ain't That Great' Remix). I feel this enormous pressure to take part in this man-bash, when it come up (which it inevitably does), and it's the dirtiest, meanest feeling. It really DOES feel like they're talking about their children - except that they would *never* speak so negatively about their baby angels - or their pets - except that their love for their pets is much more unconditional. How fucked is that?

Thanks for the heads up, Kate. I knew I felt crappy in that situation, but hadn't untangled it quite yet. Sometimes I feel like the driving force is to be part of the group at all costs - even if it means being unfair and just plain shitty to the person who is supposed to be your partner.
May 12, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterEmily
p.s. I *do* have to pick up my husband's underwear every day if I want them to be in the laundry and not on the floor.
p.p.s. My husband brings me hot-water bottles wrapped in fleece cozies when I'm cold, without me having to even ask.
p.p.s my husband can just barely boil eggs
p.p.p.s. I wear ear plugs at night, because after two years of sleep torture via waking baby boy, I can't go without. Now, mostly by the default of *not* wearing earplugs, my man is the nighttime parent - and gets up uncomplainingly whenever our kiddo calls. He regularly assuages my guilty conscience, and tells me, 'It's really not a big deal, honey; I can fall back asleep really quickly, and it always takes you forever.'
... ... ...

p.p.(ad nauseum)s. That last one beats any of the others. Am I right?
May 12, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterEmily
Rock on sister.
May 12, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterAimee Greeblemonkey
Oh, this hit home for me because unfortunately I'm guilty of it occasionally. Even today I was snarking on my husband to a friend because he asked me IF we have a vacuum cleaner. IF. As though we might not have one even though we've lived together for nearly a decade and he was there when we bought it upon moving in together...back when we shared the chores 50/50! Not that I do much vacuuming or care much about housework either but the phrasing of the question threw into relief how stereotypical our roles have become now that we have a child. He pays so little attention the domestic details that he does not know IF we have a major home appliance. I find this kind of complaining a very unattractive quality in myself and bite my tongue when I hear these things coming out of my mouth. I think when I do it, it's more about frustration at having fallen into the roles we tried so hard to avoid, rather than painting all men with a broad brush. Not that the roles aren't working for us...but it's still irritating to have slipped into them so easily and unconsciously.
May 12, 2010 | Unregistered Commenterhillary
Thank you for this post. I get so uncomfortable when the man-bashing starts, and have yet to decide quite how I need to address this with my friends, and now mother!! But, I agree that they have given away their power, and need to find some way to get it back.

My job is to raise responsible men, who know to give and receive respect, and clean bathrooms and kitchens and meal plan and make shopping lists. I also have to remember to raise my daughter to not expect a man to sign on to do things only her way. Different is not a dirty word. Too many of us don't remember that.
May 12, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterJoy
Hi Kate! I love your writing and your wonderful color drenched photos. I respect your abdication from the gender wars. I appreciate the fact that gender does not seem to matter to you. One is a human bean before all else. I wonder, as i have no children of my own or brothers for that matter, how it is that having those beautiful boys informs your opinion of the importance of gender? I remember a post of yours wondering what it would like to have "a dick, and fuzz and muscles everywhere" I do have a husband, and I do love the masculinity of him. perhaps I feel like not acknowledging the differences of gender fails to honor the ying/yangness of our lovely relationship. And, he thinks so differently from myself. My goodness.. the rum, she/he makes me verbose! Anyway, thanks for a thought provoking post!
-Becky
May 12, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterBeckSande
Hear hear!

God knows if men treated us the same way they get treated 'we need to train them' then there would be an awful lot more oral sex in this world.

My other half is pretty awesome and the toilet seat doesn't bother me. I leave it down, why the fuss if he leaves it up?
May 12, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterVeronica
fellow mother of sons here...not a sitcom watcher as they have come to make my skin crawl with the awfulness of their tinny lines and terrible portrayal of family life.

man, men catch it hard sometimes. my husband is one of the quieter and reserved ones, not brash, not in your face ever, steady and loyal and quite lovely. and sometimes quite frustrating because he is quiet, sometimes hard to contact because he is reserved, sometimes i wish he were 6 inches taller so other men did not misjudge his underlying strengths...but i knew these things when i got in and never ever would i refer to him as trainable, teachable or changeable. that is abhorrent.

what is it with messages these days? that we can change our children, our men, our loves and lives and weight and faces and personas and names by following a link, watching a youtube vid or reading a blog. i mean, yes. and no.

but as always, you somehow use your words to weave and wrap and split open a topic, give it meaning and light and damn, woman, you do it so well.

:) wish you were still on the west side of canada so we could run into you and your boys and man when we are up there. in good time. until then, please keep spewing manifestos...they make my toes tingle.

p.s. will send CD of ambient weird sleep aid musak as soon as i a)find a mac with which to sync my iphone b)find a blank CD c)find that email from you with address. it will happen now that i wrote myself a list.
May 12, 2010 | Unregistered Commentermamie
Standing on a table echoing your words...yep, mom of four sons, young vibrant new gma of one 3 mo grandson. Ok, I had a couple of glasses of wine, but I'd have cheered anyhow.
May 13, 2010 | Unregistered Commentermelody
YES.
May 13, 2010 | Unregistered Commenterschmutzie
No to man bashing, yes to making great sons!
In every stereotype there is some grain of truth but what gets done to it...... they always embellish and enhance for the chuckle and frisson of recognition.They don't always recognize the danger that reinforcement and emphasis on negative qualities might lead people to believe it is all gospel truth! Thus the tribe of Negative Women (and others) is born!
May 13, 2010 | Unregistered Commenterstarrlife
oh lord. guilty as much as others, but looking forward to an eventual relationship where the bitching is outweighed by hot water bottles cozies.

I do so hate that cultural model of the idiot husband, the martyr wife-we choose them, so nut up or shut up I guess :P
May 13, 2010 | Unregistered Commenterthordora
Mother to one son and wife to a terrific husband. Thank you for providing a much needed perspective.
May 13, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterJessica
13 years with my husband did not reform my feminist manhating ways. Giving birth to a son has. Tremendously. All of a sudden, I'm all about gender balance and respect for both sexes and equity and equality in ways I am ashamed to admit I never was before. I am raising the future and I respect my son as an individual, so why would I not extend that respect to the species? It is hard for me, this revisionist thinking, but so so so important. I have a son and a daughter and am doing my very best to raise them "equally," whatever that means.
May 13, 2010 | Unregistered Commenterrebecca
Absofuckinglutely. I'm a Women and Gender Studies minor, and there is WAY too much "reverse sexism" from the unshowered women in some of my classes. No acknowledgement that the patriarchy is awful to men too. They can't have feelings, they are simple, anger and violence is the only acceptable way to communicate stress, they can't function in the house, they can't pay any attention to their clothing, blah blah blah... I can't stand it. Men are (gendered) people too, and I love my neurotic, breakfast-making, papaya face scrub-using, totally-capable-of-using-an-iron, rocket scientist boyfriend.
May 13, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterKara
**Inept men are not foisted upon all of superior womanhood along with an avalanche of dirty socks.**

It's the ability to construct poignant, imaginary sentences like this that make my jaw drop and drive me to be a better writer.

And gosh, I will bellow loudly with you that this male-loathing madness must end! It's silly. Of course burping and toilet seat ineptness is annoying. So is adult female temper tantrums when he didn't get our anniversary gift just right and barking *I just need a break* each consecutive 10 minutes after the first bark of the same plea.

Blah.
May 13, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterChristine Sweet
agreed. i see it as a part of the same sexism that still permeates our society: a sexism that goes under the radar b/c it's about how we see categories of masculine & feminine, not necessarily what individual men & women can DO.

the stereotype comes from the idea that once a man is domesticated, he's emasculated. he is either whipped into actual feminization, or - if he retains his aura of male furriness - is goofusized into uselessness. either way, the message is, men - steer clear of the domestic realm.

because many men were raised not to do things like laundry for themselves, the stereotype not only perpetuates the idea that they're helpless goofs, it also suggests that really, that work can only be done by women.

and hell, i don't wanna.
May 13, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterBon
I love this post. My mother always tries to put my dad down in these ways. She's not perfect; no one is. I think that our parent's generation are more obsessed with gender than ours.

I hope I don't fall prey to these boring conversational traps when commiserating with other women.

Love your blog. Love your book!
May 13, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterRobin
I am SO passive-aggressive with your blog. I read it in big doses, and kinda relish that feeling of coming back and having lots of making up to do.

On this one I'm poking my head out and saying 'Me too!'

For all the 'training' I've given Dustan (if we're gonna use that word), he also has trained me, in countless necessary ways, and I am all the better for it. In fact, if it was any other way, it would be two people kidding themselves.
May 14, 2010 | Unregistered Commenterbetsy
That's not saying my poop doesn't smell like verbena mist. Cause it totally does.
May 14, 2010 | Unregistered Commenterbetsy
Thank you for saying this.
May 14, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterMSH
SO glad to see someone else say this...those type of commercials really bug me too and I've often thought about what an outcry there would be if the genders were reversed. Although I think it's important to point out that it's a cultural thing and what you are talking about seems to be almost exclusive to white middle or upper class. I work on an Indian reservation and the norm there is completely opposite...the women take care of the kids, cook, clean, manage the house and the finances, and often work outside the home as well and the men sit on the couch and watch TV and drink beer or go to the casino and hang out with their friends. Generalization of course, and obviously there are tons of wonderful hard-working men there too, but this is the case in many many households on the reservation. The most interesting part is no one thinks this is abnormal at all; in fact the women expect it. But the men-bashing by the martyr-women is just as disturbing. You would think we could all have just grown up by now and treat each other like responsible adults...
May 14, 2010 | Unregistered Commenteranonymous
Power to the people, and that means all genders. I tire of hearing the sexes pitted against each other, and of this subtle (or not so) idea that embracing feminine wisdom means ignoring, ridiculing, or annihilating the masculine. Thanks for speaking out for our brothers, sister. Amen.

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