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    Thursday
    28Feb

    one in 43,200 seconds

    There's this friend I've never met. She's acerbic, witty, opinionated, emotionally charged. She's a veteran of heartbreaks of an entirely different origin than mine.

    I don't get it, she wrote yesterday. Not only do I not 'get it' -- it pisses me off when people say there's a God. People who would ask for intervention, who would put more stock in some imagined higher power than in real people. If God's so great, why did Rwanda happen, and why did Hitler happen, and why does random tragedy strike good, honest people when they least expect?

    (acerbic friend: one. God: zero.)

    Bullshit, she continues. There's no heaven, and no hell. There is only now. As I age, I grow more sure of this, that my life will end when my body expires, that I will live only in memory, that I might support a tree or a berry bush when I'm gone. I find comfort in the continuity of my atoms.

    Proximity dictates that we may meet one day, assuming we can find a place that makes poutine with miso gravy. I hope so. I'll leave it up to her to raise her hand here, or to stand at the back of the room as she likes -- I absolutely respect her atheism, share bits and pieces of it, and would only, if ever, subscribe to a God who would value her especially for her questions.

    I'm not a believer, not a non-believer. The dinosaurs trump any literal interpretation of the bible, but that's not to say the book doesn't have worthy lessons to contemplate. I don't like it when churches condemn, but I don't condemn churches.

    So I said Don't you think there's just too much in the world that can't be explained? Too much mystery to reduce it all to life-as-atoms?

    And she said nope.

    And I said I was a cynic. Then the morning that Liam died, something was in the room with us -- something so profound, I could almost touch it. So I'm left with my own crisis of faith, of sorts. A reformed cynic. I don't recommend the method, but it's left me open to the possibility of a God that's a hell of a lot more complex and more sensible and more sad and more full of love than any religion would ever allow.

    And she said Not to dishonour that night for you, but don't you think that was just your heart?

    And I said nope.

    There were other voices in this conversation, all grace and respect and interestingness, and I signed off only because I didn't have anything else to add, and it was time for teeth-curling family errands.

    But then all day I've wanted to punch something. And it wasn't just the Wal-Mart.

    I've always wondered if I'm just a little bit crazed, inventing magic where none exists. If the presence in the room that day was merely the intensity of the moment, then Liam's life was a blip.

    Then he was just an egg and a sperm that divided and gestated into one of two human babies, and who was betrayed by his mother's placenta, born sick and then died to be turned to ash and set loose on a lake because his parents are sentimental morons, thinking it would somehow make him free to come and go as he pleases.

    He did not watch our red canoe weave back through the everglades on that sapphire-sky afternoon. He does not come to me in that special kind of light, sitting behind my eyeballs with his legs crossed, indian-style.

    He was not patient and brave. His brain was simply so damaged that he was numb to the ophthalmologist who propped his eyelids open with wire spiders to prod his retinas while Ben screamed throughout the same procedure, as healthy babies do.

    He was not my resolute protector. He was just a baby we called Liam because that's what popped into my head at finding out we'd need two names, not one.

    Dirt, cells, atoms. They rob me of my lost son's grace. They pull me into darkness, hopelessness. They make me feel like a fool, make me doubt the most profound experience of my entire life. An experience I did not manufacture, I'm sure of it.

    Or did I?

    ++++++++

    For the six weeks of his life I didn't explicitly pray. I didn't even consider it. Praying is foreign. It's not in my nature, my history or my heart. Faced with dire straits I only thought of God as a drowning woman thinks of a lifejacket.

    Please, please, please let there be some meaning, some light, some redemption, some help, anything.

    It was just after dawn, seven o'clock in the morning. I could hear the construction crew in the parking lot below, see the shadow of them passing our window through the curtain, hear their boots as they climbed the scaffolding carrying bagged lunches, tools, coils of wire.

    And for the first time in my life I spoke aloud to God, the one I'd invented, the one my imagination found most palatable. I gave that being permission to take my son.

    There are 43,200 seconds in twelve hours.

    Liam died that second.

    The very same moment I asked for him to be freed of that horrible place, that beaten body. Not a moment sooner.

    ++++++++

    I don't want to look behind the curtain. If I did, it might be empty except for a reflection of myself, of atoms and cells and the electrical impulses of my own desperation. And I'd see that Liam has not passed, as if he's gone somewhere -- but that his body and life has ended completely, evaporated into nothingness.

    That's just too fucking bleak.

    That's what makes me want to punch something.

    And I can't live with that rage. Because I have to smile with my eyes as well as my mouth, or my living children will see.

    And so I subscribe to the magic of souls, chew on the gift given to me on that night. Because I'd rather be a sentimental moron than be consumed entirely by despair.

    Despite having one foot in each camp, I find comfort in the continuity of spirits, because I must.

    ++++++++

    Thordora has raised her hand and no matter how she protests, I'm slipping some miso gravy onto her fries at Maritime BlogHer 2008, and SHE WILL LOVE IT, and I will NEVER LET HER FORGET IT.

    In case you're curious, her post that sparked all this is here.

     

    Reader Comments (131)

    The God I envision is not one that meddles in everyday life, nor one that keeps score and hands out reward and punishment in our lifetimes, grants wishes, or helps sports teams. But a complicated presence in your room? I can go there.

    I don't think A comes to sit behind my eyeballs. I envision him free to roam and busy with his own things. But I say whatever works for each of us, you know? Whatever helps you breathe. And smile.
    February 28, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterJuliaKB
    kate.

    i hesitate to comment, because i don't have words like yours to express what i feel.

    i believe in God. i have my reasons, and yet i have had my doubts.

    i know this was not your purpose for writing this post, but it has drawn me closer to the God that i know. He knows me, my dreams, my thoughts, and the intents of my heart. and although i don't feel i can compare the magnitude of my struggles with yours, i know that He knows them, our struggles. because you are right, it is bleak to think of it being any other way.

    thanks for this.
    February 28, 2008 | Unregistered Commentererin
    Oh, I think of Liam as a wanderer too. He only sits behind my eyeballs when he's got something really lovely to show me.

    Thanks Julia, and Erin. I needed to hear from someone like you tonight.

    February 28, 2008 | Unregistered Commentersweetsalty kate
    From laughter to tears again. The miso gravy? Made me laugh out loud. I crave poutine desperately, but alas...not until NY Fries can understand my plight.

    And the rest? Well, I can't really say anything because it's too hard to go there, but I'm with you. Well said. As usual.



    February 28, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterMichelle
    I want to comment because such a post deserves one, but I have no words. Thank you for sharing such a raw, intimate moment that will stay with me, probably forever. Your heart is open, and that is a good thing. Be blessed, Kate.
    February 28, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterShannon
    Sweet Kate, you will always and forever be one of my greatest teachers. You, brave, lovely beautiful soul - you, in all your grief and despair and almost unfathomable eloquence and grace, you make me want to believe in things.



    February 28, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterJeanette
    i think that having a foot in each camp means you'll always be able to find stable ground.i honor all of the grief, rage, questioning, and faith in you. there are no right answers; hell, are there even answers?xoxo to you.
    February 28, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterMereMortal
    Wrenching.....your words tug me out......I am spiritual...a believer...not a church goer for now....I beleive in God and Science and that the two intercede at every point whether we as humans (we think we know! So much!) recognize it or not.

    And Kate, the soul? The soul is not made of atoms........
    February 28, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterCrystal
    I too hesitate to comment because I am no writer. I believe there is a God but not one who controls our lives like a puppet master...one who loves us and wants to protect us....one who does not hand out punishment....one who respects our doubts and maybe uses doubt as a way to make us stronger and dig deeper.

    I can't imagine there not being life after death. What is our journey on this earth for if it all ends with our last breath?

    Just my beliefs...I don't judge anyone who believes differently. My husband does not believe in God or an afterlife.

    Crystal said it best."The soul is not made of atoms." It can't possibly be.

    Thanks for opening my eyes and heart to your beliefs and those of so many others. You have such an amazingly smart group of internet friends.
    February 28, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterashley in sc
    kate,

    your words, thoughts, beliefs... so exquisitely expressed. although my mind is in a dark, post-midnight fog, this post has brought a light to my heart and a tangible happiness in recognizing... understanding something so personal. i especially relate to the sentiment: "would only, if ever, subscribe to a God who would value her especially for her questions."

    i can't help but comment and thank you for sharing this with us.

    i also can't help but think there is something spiritual in your friend's perspective. though it be atoms and science, the mere fact of their existence and complexity... the way in which they interact with others to perform such amazing and diverse functions on both micro and macroscopic levels... how can their not be power and awe in that? also thinking... spirit and energy are so closely related: the saying "energy can neither be created or destroyed" maybe every part of us (mass, energy, spirit?) having always existed, never to leave... only perhaps change form or function...

    well, you've got me thinking, and perhaps more importantly, not worrying so much that i don't have a definite answer. thank you, again. many wishes of warmth and happiness to you and your family.
    February 28, 2008 | Unregistered Commentercait
    I, too, drown in this; sometimes during the happiest of circumstances, the thought enters my mind that one day, maybe even while I'm still alive, my children will die. This fundamental fate, this recurring, nightmarish epiphany, plunges me into the present, deeper into the enjoyment of life right now.

    But they like to talk about everything.I despair when they ask me if we go to heaven. I tell them I just don't know. I explain that for all the beauty and emotion we have, doesn't it make sense that our should would live forever somewhere? Shouldn't that force feed something larger?

    It hurts me to offer nothing more than atoms. Instead, I tell them everything I do know and everything that everyone speculates. And then I try not to cry while drowning.

    February 28, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterSteph
    sorry, I meant to type:

    ...doesn't it make sense that our souls would live forever somewhere?
    February 28, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterSteph
    Cait's got it right in my opinion. As a physicist, I see the world through a series of conservation laws: nothing is every destroyed, it just changes form. My faith tells me that applies to souls too, and in my imagination (because faith and reason tell me our souls are conserved, but not how) I see it as analogous to the energy-mass relationships. When our souls leave our bodies I imagine it/them as a pure type of energy, one we can't measure, that surrounds our world.
    February 29, 2008 | Unregistered Commentertrish
    Just because we don't believe in something, or don't understand it, or want it to be true ... doesn't mean that it is impossible or untrue. I don't understand astro-physics. I don't understand my 11 year old. But they're both ... there.
    February 29, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterLuAnn
    Kate, My father unexpectedly died when I was in college, more than five hours from home. Within what I would later find to be five minutes of his death, I felt something in the room with me, and not knowing what it was, I was flooded with such a sense of dread and fear, that I had to go and find someone to keep me company and take my mind off it. I convinced myself it was an upcoming exam, although, even on my way back to my room later that night, I knew it wasn't true. I didn't find out until hours later, becuase no one could figure out how to make that phone call. But I can still remember the presence in the room that day, the familiarity of it, and how it felt to suddenly feel the air evaporate.

    I have to believe, even though I am still skeptical of God and haven't gone to church since childhood, that he is still somewhere, that that presence, those moments, were a way of saying good bye.
    February 29, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterJB
    Thank you for writing this. I started reading your blog as Ben and Liam were born. I do respect your friend's perspective, but I also think there is so much that can't be explained and that I just don't understand. I couldn't put it into human context to explain the divinity of our world. I think you should take comfort in the grace and divinity of Liam's life. And that faith doesn't have to be built on rules and structure, but is built on dark nights and the scariest of circumstances and, certainly for me, is built on the impact of these tiny babies that come into our lives.I have always, always loved your description a while back of God as a tinkerer. In an argyle sweater watching things collide and interact below.
    February 29, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterBunny
    I too am a believer and a non-believer. There is one thing though that I think trumps all the religions in the world, two actually - the bond between a Momma and child, and quite simply Momma-love. Where ever Liam is, he knows, and where ever you are throughout your life, you know, you feel.

    People have their opinions about God and such, but no one can ever deny that Momma-love is the most special kind of love, and no matter if there is a God or not, I believe that Liam is with you everywhere. Not even death can break the bond, not even death can destroy Momma-love.

    (((((((HUGS))))))))

    February 29, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterNerns
    I am a Buddhist and, as such, have no God. I do, however, have wisdom and words from the Buddha in which he says and I paraphrase badly, your thoughts make the world. So since I paraphrased badly, I'll stretch the interpretation. What does it matter, this grand scheme of things? You felt a presence with you that night, you feel Liam with you now, and so why complicate that with some sort of "God: Is He Real?" dilemma. If you felt like God took Liam when you asked him to take him, you felt it like you felt Liam on your skin, then why doubt it? Don't. Whatever it was that helped you that night, The Universe, God, a patron Saint of fill-in-the-blank, its sole purpose was to help you, to ease your pain, all three of you. And it did.

    It doesn't have to be all inclusive or exclusive. Make the world you want to live in. I, personally, love living in a world where Liam dances about in the light. I've seen him all the way over here in Chicago (I even sent you a picture of it once). You can have a foot in each camp. It's perfectly fine. That's how you stand, after all.
    February 29, 2008 | Unregistered Commentertrains | boats
    I believe in God. For me, its a great deal more complicated than dinosaurs v. Bible. And a great deal more simple, because I can never remember a time when I didn't believe, a certainty deep in my gut, that God exists. Whatever other pieces of my belief system and (most certainly) my religion I struggle with, the presence of God has always been clear to me. I don't find science and faith incompatible, nor the presence of horror incompatible with that of grace. But, the night I read your description of the Argyle God I felt a moment of blinding recognition. "Him! I know him." That was the God I've struggled to describe at times. He gives me so much comfort. I'm sorry that it pisses your friend off when I reach for him; I know it to be uncomfortable for those whose certainty is more rooted in the earth and its workings. But, I can't believe anything else anymore than she can, and I wouldn't if I could. My faith gives me a great deal of peace and comfort, even in a world that contains Rwanda, Kenya and the loss of beautiful little lives, and I am grateful for it. Your friend finds peace in the natural cycle of the world, her own faith. I know many, many people who do not have either and it is difficult for them. So, I listen to my heart. And I believe. (I would note, your friend also listens to her heart and believes. And so we both have peace.)
    February 29, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterCara
    Lovely post, as usual.
    February 29, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterAll Adither
    I am a believer of God.

    As a parents, we cannot control our children's choices throughout their life. As God the Father, he too has given us the freedom of choice.

    There is a level of guidance, but the outcome isn't always as we wish.

    Personally, I believe Liam lives daily in many lives. This journal and the continuance of comments prove it.

    (((hugs)))

    February 29, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterNancy
    Oh hon...he is with you...in your bones, in your memories, in your very being. He is with you.

    I don't want to ever take your peace from you. But at the same time, acknowledge your own power and humanity. He IS you. Liam with never leave you, as my mother has never left me. She lives in my heart, and my mind, and will be there until I die.

    There is comfort in that too.

    We could make miso poutine.... :) I'm not eating it, but we could make it. :P
    February 29, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterthordora
    Oh Kate. We go on. We do.
    February 29, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterdaysgoby
    Oh Kate, delurking to say, this is simply beautiful.
    February 29, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterkristen
    You aren't the only one with one foot in both camps. Know this. Thanks for sharing. It makes me feel I'm not alone.
    February 29, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterShannon
    I've never read your blog before, but I came across it and I don't think I could have picked a post that resonated more with me. By expressing all the things that make us doubt and despair, you've truly made me feel connected. I feel grateful to you for helping me to fill a need for shared meaning and belonging. The sacred can be found everywhere, and not just some sugarcoated, almost commercial form.
    February 29, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterRaed
    I don't know exactly what to say but how can I read this and not at least say thank you?

    I too have a foot in both camps. And I don't think that's wrong. I think so often in the west we confuse "God" with "Christianity". I don't believe in the Lutheran church I grew up in but I do believe that there is a higher power. I don't think it is a school principal or a parent or a teacher - but I do think that there is more to humanity than a random collection of atoms. My much-loved grandmother died when I was pregnant with Isaac, and her presence is still with us all - my whole family has commented that she is close to us, all the time. That can't be explained away by science - and maybe it shouldn't be. I think we need that mystery to give us comfort and encourage us to strive for something more.



    February 29, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterHannah
    I am an atheist, but not one who claims to have all (or any of) the answers. But also, not one who has ever truly had her atheism tested. They say there are no atheists in foxholes, but I wonder if there are any in intensive care units either. And in that sort of extreme situation, who can say what they will feel or experience, and who can say what they will need to believe, just to keep on breathing in and out all day long.

    This post takes my breath away.
    February 29, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterPlattie
    That is the most indescribably, beautiful post that I've ever read.

    We so need to have faith in something so that these souls that we've loved and lost have not been in vain. But yet our thinking, logical mind questions, wonders and rages.

    For myself to believe whole-heartedly in God is such a leap of faith that it is a blind leap because of all we know about science and logic. There is also so much that science can't explain either.

    A foot in both camps is where you will find many of us.

    Thank you for that post.
    February 29, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterTami in NY
    I don't think you manufactured that moment. I think you cried out to God, and he answered you, in the loudest and clearest way he could. You can question that memory your whole life, the questions are good and keep us looking for more, but you will never forget that feeling of being so close to God...when he was right there with you and Liam...right there.

    (I am so not good at composing my deeper thoughts. xoxo)

    February 29, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterstephanie
    That...that was beautiful.
    February 29, 2008 | Unregistered Commentervictoria
    This is such an extraordinary post.

    I consider myself someone who grew out of what I'd call intellectual fundamentalism. I had very literal, one dimensional certainties about what other people meant when they said "god".

    Today I don't assume that, when someone else says that word, it means for them what it means for me. Some people believe in the Justice League type of God that your friend also fervently believes in, (if in negative) and if they assumed that's what I pray to, they'd be very wrong.

    I keep my faith on the low-down when I bump into athiests or bible thumpers for the exact same reasons. They are both on fire with absolutism, and neither is inclined to respect my experience, because it doesn't fit with their dogma.

    Because I love ritual, and because I need structure, I eventually found a religion whose ceremonies gave me a framework for consciously engaging my faith, but whose doctrines didn't require me to check my brain at the door. It also forced me off my high, lonesome horse and into community, but that's another story.

    There is a part of the Episcopal (Anglican) liturgy called the Mystery of Faith. It goes like this:

    Christ has died. Christ has risen. Christ will come again.

    I understand the C word to mean the part of me that is connected to divine energy, the part of me that--like Jung--doesn't believe, but knows. My faith is constantly cycling through those three statements: despair, certainty and hope.

    This post of yours cycles through them, too. It's as lovely and true a litany as I've ever read.
    February 29, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterKyran
    So beautiful.

    I consider myself an atheist, simply because I cannot bring myself to believe in the traditional conception of a Judeo-Christian-Islamic personal-type God. But a complicated presence in your room? A sense of the sacred, a belief that we are all precious and somehow something "more" than a collection of atoms?

    Yeah, I could go along with that.

    Thank you.
    February 29, 2008 | Unregistered Commentera reader
    I've been reading your blog for months (from the UK, if you're interested), and I've been tempted to comment lots of times. This is the first time I've de-lurked, because I simply couldn't click away without putting in my two cents. What I know, beyond a shadow of a doubt, is that something brought you and Liam peace in that moment. By sharing this on your blog, you've brought a small measure of that same peace to me, and to countless others. Thank you.
    February 29, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterLJ
    Wonderful post. Almost speachless but want to add my 'voice' here. I am agnostic too (fancy word for foot in both camps). I have never had an experience like your 43,200 seconds. Yet, the more I allow for a loving presence (for me aka 'God', 'Creator' and 'higher power') the better I feel. This is true whether things are going my way or not. My belief in a creator makes it easier to smile, laugh, cry, be present and be alive. That can't be a bad thing even if that makes me a Pollyanna or a sentimental moron...
    February 29, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterJoC
    No amount of witty blogging should take your comfort from you. Physics and chemistry aside, as long as you live, Liam lives in some way or another. A breeze, a laugh, a feeling, a presence. "Just your heart". Puh-leeze. What else is God but what's in our hearts?
    February 29, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterShayShay
    it's such a strange place - to be straddling the line of belief. i have been doing it for years...there is part of me that has faith in science and logic and wants to understand the Earth for what it is at face value. And then there is the part of me that knows that something more must exist....because i have seen too much that i can't understand to believe otherwise.

    when my grandmother passed away just a few months ago, my (very religious) family sat by her bedside, praying. i felt like a fake, sitting beside them, not knowing what to do. so i talked to her instead. i spoke silently and aloud to her soul, wherever it was resting. this gave me peace.

    thank you for this post.
    February 29, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterAshley
    Thank you for writing this. It was articulate and personal. I am very sorry for your loss, and awed by your willingness to share your grief and your journey.
    February 29, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterwendelah1
    Sadly, you may not find God in a church and I know you won't find Him in religion, but I have found for me it is a personal and daily leap of faith and He has proven Himself to me every time. He loves me and calls me his own. God IS love. I see Him everywhere - as well as people like me (meesy and sinful) everywhere too. That's where I find hope. I grew up in churches full of judgmental and dogmatic 'christians' and I know it's really a turnoff - it is a very personal relationship and one you need to make on your own. I would say to you, Kate and anyone else. Give Him a try. Lean into Him and see what happens. Ask Him to show you who He is. If He's God, He sure is able to do that (and I think He already has.) What do you have to lose? With respect to athiests, I actually think being athiest requires even more faith than believing in God.

    Thank you for your thoughts, you put to words what I can't even fathom expressing so eloquently, but it strikes a chord in my soul. I believe with all my heart that God Himself created you and gifted you with this talent. Thanks for sharing.
    February 29, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterSheri
    I find myself emerging from the shadows where I've been lurking to say "Wow. What a post."

    Like you, I have never been as aware of the presence of god as I was in the three weeks I spent in the hospital praying for my son to arrive safely - and then waking to find he'd said good-bye while I was sleeping one of the most peaceful sleeps I'd had in weeks. Doubts and cynicism continue to assail me, but when they come, I always point to those days and say "but what about that? I CAN'T have imagined that. And what about the little visits my son has paid me since - always on the wings of butterflies?"

    If you haven't read the book "Expecting Adam", I'd highly recommend it.
    February 29, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterHeather
    Kate,

    I find myself touched and humbled by the beautiful way you express yourself. Thank you.

    I grew up Catholic and had my crisis of faith in college. I tried not to believe in God, but I found I just had to.



    February 29, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterKelsey
    The way you write to express your feelings is just extraordinary. I find it impossible to only believe in science. As you said, a foot in both camps is where I stand as well.

    Thank you so much for sharing.
    February 29, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterSteph
    Kate, as always, this was a moving post. It made me think, especially now, about the meaning of comfort. If it's comforting to believe, then why not believe? If it's comforting to not, then don't. It's about our souls as much as theirs.
    February 29, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterNTE
    I said this in email, but I feel compelled to say it "out loud" as well.

    When I speak of your heart, in my mind I see your love filling the room for him, and accepting him into your soul, utterly, completely. Your moment of release, to me (so entirely subjective before I get pounced upon) was the letting go into yourself of your son.

    Divinity? Maybe. Peace? Absolute.

    And I've told you this-in my belief system, in my mind, Liam is everywhere. In the willows by the water you paddle through, in the maples and elms in my backyard, in Evan's hair, in your hands. He is become life, to strangle the Bhagavad Gita.

    I find it to be ultimately more peaceful and comforting. I never in any way meant to detract from your experience, or your grief. But I believe he is in you, and always will be. His grace is now yours.

    Maybe that's why I don't need gods or light or spirits or boogeymen. Because the grace of immortality, in a slightly altered way, is enough for me.
    February 29, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterthordora
    It is so hard for me to read something like that. My heart breaks for you and your friend. I have so many things I want to say to your friend but I know they wouldn't matter. To me praying is like breathing. I do it without thought. There is comfort in knowing that I am not in control that there is something bigger. I cannot look at everything in the world and how well it all works together and believe it is all just an accident. Something does not come from nothing. I believe in prayers and miracles. I have seen them. I believe Liam is in heaven and I believe you will see him again. Everyone is entitled to their beliefs. I take comfort in mine.
    February 29, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterSomeone Being Me
    And in that second, you received his gift. The gift of enlightenment from the Holy Spirit that he is here, guiding us closer to God. Every experience we have is the Holy Spirit teaching and guiding us and trying to get us back to God.And now we now that death and heaven are perfect, and life and Earth are imperfect.Sometimes, I believe, that God whacks people over the head here on Earth, with a huge Tsunami so that we remember life is NOT about stuff, or jobs, or greed, or wealth. Life is about taking care of others and realizing that we can't do it alone.Then, when we get to heaven, we are reunited with our loved ones and live in perfection.You're amazing Kate, I love reading about your spiritual journey through this experience...
    February 29, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterLinda
    This post spoke to me. I know what you mean when you mention that presence in the room with you.

    Sometimes such horrible things happen to you, or such amazingly good things, and you cannot deny what happened in your heart... and that God was present there. That has happened to me too.

    Happiness and blessings to you.



    February 29, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterlaughing mommy
    i read the post you linked, i read this post, and then i am just kinda sitting here, thinking of these things, of god, a god, the god i learned of, the world as we experience it. your words bring pictures to my mind, thoughts and hope and occasionally a type of prayer for us, you and a lot of other things. thank you for writing as you do, i seem to write that a lot in my comments to you, but i find i have to say it. i believe in a presence, i believe in it strongly. and it has no real definition but that presence i think is somehow with you.
    February 29, 2008 | Unregistered Commentermamie
    I don't want to believe in God. If he exists, why has he let my brother live in drug addict hell for the past 30 years? Why did he let my husband have cancer? Why does he let horrific things happen to innocent children? I don't want to believe in him. But then I walk far out into the woods and sit beside a stream and just listen. It's then that I know he's really there. This earth is so beautiful and I know without any doubts he exits.
    February 29, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterDee
    Ug, I am running b/c I have to pick kid up from day care before disappearing for the weekend. Am also antsy b/c it seems that every time I comment here, the comment gets lost between the writing of it and the verification step. I do want to say that my email is madhattermommy@hotmail.com and we need to start planning Maritime BlogHer. I am definitely in. I will make the miso gravy if need be.
    February 29, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterMad

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