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Monday
Oct202008

why I don't necessarily love being a woman

In a blogger-to-blogger interview that never saw the buzzing flourescent lights of the Deep Thoughts Clearinghouse that is teh interwebs, she asked what do you love about being a woman?

I answered I think it would be just as interesting to be a man, to have a dick and muscles and fuzz everywhere

...because asking what do you love about being a woman is not far from asking how did you live through 2007. I don't mind the question, but I'll never have an answer. I know no different, made no choices. When I was born I did not look between my own legs and pull the trigger like SCORE! I HAVE A SUGAR DISH!

By lack of opportunity, perhaps, there’s not much girl-on-girl summer camp love or psychadelic angst or topless bongo-playing in my history. I don’t spell women with a Y. I believe that sainthood and jackasshood are gender-blind. I don’t think that a coin toss that lands one way versus the other can represent the dawn of a higher state.

I dunno, I think it’d be pretty great to have a dick can’t have gone over too well.

My sexless gut tells me there’s nothing inherently sublime about being a woman. Being born XY instead of XX does not render life either festooned with rainbow sprinkles, or unfair and femoralized (yes, I made it up and yes, it is word art).

Some women feel most at home with a 60-pound chainsaw in hand. Some men feel most at home in a mesh thong of hot pink. Women own birth and breastfeeding, neither of which tend to cooperate with ambitions of glory but are nevertheless pretty incredible feats. Point: womynhood. Then again, men get to do The Helicopter with their junk. Two points: schlonghood.

I see the sublime in people for whom gender is irrelevant. In people who stretch out to occupy every corner of their own skin without anything to prove to anyone else. Or perhaps with everything to prove. Doesn’t matter.

It’s the first part that counts.

++++

After some consideration I tempered the dick bit with we owe it to our families and fore-souls to make the best choices we possibly can, and to be good and thoughtful and accountable and kind no matter what form we take

…which was my way of saying sorry for not giving you a manifesto of either a) goddesshood and femme-pride or b) bikini waxing and step aerobics, but after four years of post-secondary education at a womens’ studies university, I’m possibly the least feministy feminist alive.

(note: perhaps I'm just ridiculously fortunate and have never been required to reclaim or re-cherish something I feel has been lost, and if I don't say it, you might, and that would be fair enough.)

How much of your identity tracks back to your gender beyond the obvious visual clues? Can you provide an either profound or witty soundbite for what you love about being a woman (or a man) that would be impossible to swap with the other side, experientially speaking? I'd genuinely love to hear it.

Most important, can anyone who reads this perform The Helicopter with his junk and if so, haz you got video?*

*google translator: read JOKE


Reader Comments (49)

Dangit Kate, I am a grown woman with real responsibilities and thanks to you this AM I will go around all day acting like, "yeah, I know what a helicopter is." but secretely I'll be thinking, "I wonder what a helicopter is?" :)

You are Fun-E. Being a woman doesn't hold much favor for me, I loved breastfeeding, actually, I love breast, I think they are awesome! Okay so there, that is all I can claim, I like being the fairer sex with the stuff on top, even after two rounds of breastfeeding, much prettier than the things that may or may not be able to do a "helicopter".
October 20, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterjen
I've never particularly enjoyed being a woman. Not that I mind it, I've just never said "Wow, I'm so glad I'm a woman." Oh wait - yes I did. But only once when I was thinking about how much it would suck to have an orgasm at an inopportune time AND have anyone near you know. (I think I was watching Forest Gump.)

Motherhood's pretty profound in its physicality, but it's equally just fucking hard. I'll have to check back for helicopter videos. ;)
October 20, 2008 | Unregistered Commentercinnamon gurl
The only way I know to talk about the goodness or badness of either sex is to use sweeping generalizations.

I think it's cool that women tend to be more compassionate and understanding of people's flaws, but then again I think it's cool that men are able to overlook dumb shit that can turn me to an emotional wreck. I envy their obliviousness of it all...
October 20, 2008 | Unregistered Commentergina
The only time I have felt awesomeness defined by my hoo-ha is when I had my kids. The echoes of that strength lasted for days, and I know that ONLY a woman could understand creating and birthing a child as I had.

Otherwise, frankly, I never care. Especially now that my monthly "friend" has turned assassin.

And I've ALWAYS wanted a dick so I could pee my name in the snow. ALWAYS.
October 20, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterthordora
Yeah, Jen, I hear you.. boobs are pretty great, but I'm mad at mine right now for the crimes of deflation and chronic narcolepsy. The girls are just are not as perky as they used to be when they used to shout from the rooftops. Hell, they used to be able to reach rooftops from the sidewalk. Now they're like old dogs on a leash. sigh. :)
October 20, 2008 | Unregistered Commentersweetsalty kate
Oh, and thor: so true. Birth is cool, sure, but Stupid Pee Tricks win hands down. No question.
October 20, 2008 | Unregistered Commentersweetsalty kate
I literally LOL'd...hehe!!!! This was a cute post Kate!
October 20, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterSummer
I would love to be able pee without freezing buns and to be able to aim - all as part of golden showers enhancing trees and berry bushes in the garden.

I wish women didn't have to live curtailed lives due to fear of stronger, aggressive men.
Myself, I'm happy in my skin, despite sags...
October 20, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterEJ
In my experience women are better able to multi-task than men - and I think that's cool!

I like the woman = greater compassion part sometimes, but I echo Gina's comment about how men get to be oblivious. Lucky dogs.
October 20, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterJulie
You kill me, Kate. A sugardish?! I laughed so loud I scared my dogs...

I always wanted my husband to experience childbirth and sore nipples, just for a few minutes, to see what it's all about and why I'll never, ever forget it.

I'd like to be a man sometimes just to experience the whole fascination with my junk and why it's always being manipulated in some manner 24/7.
October 20, 2008 | Unregistered Commentermnkathy
I agree with everything you said. As far as what I like about being a woman... uh, yeah, I may have to get back to you on that one after my hormones stop screwing with my head.
October 20, 2008 | Unregistered Commentersteph
I like being a woman because I don't have a sweaty ball sack stuck to my leg all the time. At least that's the excuse the hub uses for "situating" his junk all the time. And I have seen the helicopter but have no video. Very funny but the guy's gotta have coordination...hehe. And I must say women get the kick ass part of being able to feel a life moving inside of them which is something a guy will never experience.
October 20, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterVicki
"Love being a woman?" Wow, talk about being determined to play into stereotypes. "Yes, I love how my vagina gives me powers to nurture my family and create world peace while sewing all my own clothes from cotton I grew and sipped on tea and crackers I made from scratch."

But, in the danger of making the entire interwebs eyeroll at the same time, I have to say that what I love about being a woman was the opportunity to be pregnant and give birth. I know that I was very, very lucky (and annoying) in that my pregnancies were easy and I was able to have quick home-births. Feeling my babies move and kick in utero was amazing and something I wish my husband could have felt. Same with birth, but for different reasons. BUT, I hate saying such a thing because I fear that there is an underlying implication that to really be a woman you must experience those things, the things that separate us completely from men. I think that's bullshit. But, I know that some women have actually said that to me. Does that mean to really be a man, one has to have scripted their name with pee in the snow? I don't think so.
October 20, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterm
Oh my god, Vicki, you get the million-dollar prize for saying "sweaty ball sack" on this blog for the very first time. And my eternal adoration.
October 20, 2008 | Unregistered Commentersweetsalty kate
That really was an image I could live without. Hair and sweat and all. :P
October 20, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterthordora
Give me a couple years (read:droop-time) and my "girls" will be doing the helicopter with the best of them. (I think i just stole a point from the fellas.)

"we owe it to our families and fore-souls to make the best choices we possibly can, and to be good and thoughtful and accountable and kind no matter what form we take"

That is my new motto. I'm going to print that out and put it on my daughters' bathroom mirror so they read everyday while brushing their teeth, and hopefully it will tattoo itself onto their gray matter.

PS- LOVE the photos you have up over at Shutter Sisters today. Love them. Is the bird over the guys head photo shopped/real and flying through the restaurant/dangling from the ceiling?
October 20, 2008 | Unregistered Commenteremily
Hmmmm...helicopter? Must research that. Fear I am missing something hilariously profound.
October 20, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterTrenches of Mommyhood
hmmm, first can i do my gushing about your writing, and say, hit the nail on the head with this one. you always make me laugh and think at the same time, which is petty cool.

woman, schmuman. i love makeup but rarely do my hair, drink too much beer and used to belch like a linebacker...i am surrounded by junk in a household of 7 men/boys to 2 women (me and my mama) and i prefer it that way. i like boobs (all of them) but do not really like women (the schmuman kind). to directly contradict that i finally at almost 33 have found a few with vaginas (sugar dishes, that one is priceless) that i absolutely love to hang out with (every few weeks).

i don't know, being a woman has never been an issue in my life. i just am. i do not love it or find aspects of it to be terribly engaging...the pregnancy thing was not the greatest, i find the resulting miracles to be more fascinating than the fact i made them (with the help of the husband and his contribution, you know).

now, what i am falling in love with is my thirties. this time in my life is proving be be liberating and settled and fun and fulfilling and good, really good, after a few decades of angst that had less to do with being a woman than just being a human.

and for the record, your take on being a woman... i like it. it fits with how i see you as a person in my mind.
October 20, 2008 | Unregistered Commentermamie
Emily - the walls there were painted with birds flying, and a tree, too. Very sparse, very cool. and thanks!
October 20, 2008 | Unregistered Commentersweetsalty kate
hell with the video, you will come back and tell us who googled what to wind up at this post, right? (RIGHT?)

I think ever since my first period, where everyone assumed my appendix had ruptured until I went to the bathroom -- at which point I insisted on hysterectomy right then and there, I've never been fond of my parts. I hate bleeding once and month and feeling like crap while I do. I hate scheduling things around my bleeding. I don't like my boobs, and frankly, I don't like that I even care what my boobs look like or that anyone else does. (My husband can fluctuate in weight about 20 pounds in either direction with no one noticing -- how do they do that?) I don't like paying more for clothes and dry cleaning, I don't like our sizing system, I don't like needing a toilet and paper in order to pee. At one point I probably felt some sense of pride at carrying, delivering, and breastfeeding my daughter, but I now realize all of that -- every last drop -- is one big crap shoot and I'd rather not be the one saddled with the responsibility. I don't need to tell you I'd rather be on the male end of things going through ART.

I'm not a v. good proponent, am I. I'll circle back and see if someone can get me excited again.
October 20, 2008 | Unregistered Commentertash
i love being a woman.

i loved being able to carry and birth my babies. i think women's bodies are hotter than men's and i'm glad i have mine. i like makeup and long hair. i enjoy femininity. i enjoy being on the woman side of the man/woman sexual flirt between my husband and i.

you are hilarious! i love 'sugar dish'.
October 20, 2008 | Unregistered Commentermaggie
maggie: you and your husband flirt?

!!!
October 20, 2008 | Unregistered Commentersweetsalty kate
At the risk of sounding trite, and most likely because I've just finished A Thousand Splendid Suns, I feel the need to add something about how fortunate we are to even hold a discussion like this with such a playful tone. In a burqa-clad life the dice-roll is so very much higher. Can't imagine.
October 20, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterPN
Hmmm. Yes to childbirth and breastfeeding. Painful but delicious and mine all mine. I also dig the profound friendships of womanhood. My husband has friends but they are all about fart jokes and sending dirty Guinness commercials via the email. My friends love me deeply, and I them.

Also? I like that my junk is on the inside (see 'sweaty ball sack,' above). Now, if someone could just politely remind my prolapsed uterus that it is to stay on the inside, that would be fan-fucking-tastic.
October 20, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterjanet
Men can not only do the helicopter, they can do the flying squirrel, the tornado, and the cinnamon bun. I think the real quesiton is whether anyone needs to see them... (Remember, google can tell us many things, not all of which we need to see. Try Urban Dictionary if you'd like image-free definitions.)

But I digress. I love who I am. I'm happy with me. I was happy that I got to carry my daughter, birth, and nurse her.

But what I'm REALLY happy about & wouldn't trade for peeing standing up, I don't think anybody's mentioned yet. Multiple orgasms! Now, not all women can, but I've never heard of a man who can even come close. Ha. Unintentional pun. And the only time I've ever heard men mention that they'd like to try being a woman, it was during discussions of multitple O's.

My life wouldn't be what it is now if I wasn't female. And maybe I wouldn't smile so much if I didn't get multiple O's :) I certainly wouldn't have married my husband & had my daughter. (I could've had daughters as a man, but not *this* one.)
October 20, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterKourtney
Years ago, maybe not that many years ago, I would've said that I would never trade in being a woman for anything, because I get to be a mom, be pregnant, give birth, nurse, mother. But it's not that black and white anymore. It's fucking HARD doing all those things, and being so at the mercy of my hormones through all of it and beyond. My husband's color spectrum of emotions (and he is among the more emotionally evolved of his half of the species) has three colors: red, yellow and blue. Happy, sad, angry. My color spectrum includes every single shade in between those, which is infinite. I used to think that was an advantage... now I'm less sure. Might be easier if I could narrow it all down to just those three.
October 20, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterGal
This made me think...and laugh too...but then think again.

There are times when I've loved being a woman, most of those centered around pregnancy, birth, and breastfeeding. There are times when I'd give anything to switch places with my husband (see: hearing children in the middle of the night, or going to a party and get to TALK to eople and drink and smoke cigars instead of chasing said children). But, mostly, I just love my life. Mine. I love the people in it and the experiences that got me to exactly where I am. Some of those experiences sucked and some ruled, but they were, and are, all mine. I guess being a woman had some bearing on those experiences, and that's the only context in which gender makes a difference to me. It just is, you know?

As for witty? I got nuthin'. We already touched on "helicopter," "sweaty ball sac" and "multiple O's" and I think that about covers it...
October 20, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterbobbi
Oh my god Kourtney, the cinnamon bun? I'm going to have nightmares tonight. Or totally kinky-bizarro dreams. I think I actually saw a photo of somebody's flying squirrel pinned up on the wall of the ski patrol hut once. seriously. Thank god for copious blur.

You guys crack me up.

PN... I've been mulling over your thought all evening. So bell-ringingly true.
October 20, 2008 | Unregistered Commentersweetsalty kate
I've got to go with Vicki and Janet. Glad my junk is on the inside and so, so happy I've been fortunate to feel life moving inside me. My youngest is 18 months and I'm just now feeling comfortable being the only one in my skin. I was quite surprised that after my son was born I felt so lonely. I was really happy to not be alone again when we found out I was pregnant again. And I'm sure that's got something to do with why I want a 3rd.

But all of that is something that I discovered accidentally. Growing up I never wanted kids and had no idea that I would enjoy feeling another person hanging out inside my junk. I was just really, really glad that my junk was inside.
October 21, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterKYouell
hello - thank you your comment on my blog - i have been lurking here for a little bit... i love the imagery in your writing. i think i will have to ponder this woman thing for a while. i have absolutely no idea, at the moment, if there is a reason i love being a woman, or if i love being a woman. i think i am glad i'm not a man, but i don't know why that is for certain, either. all good things to think about. which is why i like to visit your blog :)
October 21, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterjeanamarie
well...i used to be a feminist in college, then i got pregnant and had to finish college as a single mom, and i have to say it is definitely the childbirth thing that makes it for me. it's amazing to me how i had to grow up in a matter of minutes and my daughters dad is 33 and still working on that one....childbirth changes you and with any luck into something amazing.
October 21, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterleigh lear
Pregnancy, childbirth and breastfeeding are huge for me, no question, and they were so, even before I had trouble with any of them. That said, even if I'd never been able to have my kids biologically, then I would still love having a vagina better, because I seriously think we have better orgasms than men. Personally, I can have the throw your head back, full body WOW amazing ones that leave me barely able to breathe. (Okay, when my ovaries are working or I'm on HRT that is) But men don't get that the same way, at least according to the men I've asked. No, it's not enough for a proper survey, 19 times out of 20, yadda yadda, but it's more than a few. And they tend to feel them on the outside of the body, like from the junk out and maybe some little pelvic bits, but not in our entire brain and body, like women seem to.

Am I alone in that? Admittedly, since the c-section I've been too tired to recheck that, and half-scared it will never work again, but before that, 39 was some of the best orgasms I've ever had.

Another thing? I love talking like women do, about how we feel, and about our day, and our lives. We observe the minutiae of the world and scrutinize it very differently. Men don't talk much about feelings, even the ones with friends and brothers, they talk more about the external world, but not the internal, I think.

And I don't think that is just societal pressure, I really do think that male and female brains work differently. And I love love love having a female brain.
October 21, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterAurelia
I like being both. I am a man and a woman. It's rather a spectrum, in my experience.

As far as full-body orgasms, I've had 'em. Throw your head back and feel it in every cell.

I think the limited emotional palette, less ability to talk about feelings, etc. is learned. I just missed that lesson, I guess. And I'll be keeping my son home from man-school that day too.

I do wish I could experience carrying a baby and nursing. I used to love experiencing those in whatever vicarious way I was able with Anna when my babies were little.

Off to perfect my helicopter technique now...
October 21, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterJason Dufair
There is a quote from Camille Paglia that I can only half-remember, but it had to do with two of her students telling her about spending the night at the Pyramids in Egypt and how she realized she would never be able to do that, being a woman. That's kind of how I feel. I agree with PN and generally feel blessed and do not have any bones to pick with fate, but I sometimes wish I could sleep at the pyramids, or the equivalent.
October 21, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterjunewell
One of the greatest things about the last year is how it's blown my concept of gender wide-fucking-open. It seems so incredibly simplistic now that I used to think of just two little boxes - boy or girl. Feminine or masculine. Nothing in between. Bullshit.

Now i see that just like sexuality - femininity and masculinity exist on a continuum, and its the flow in between that is so damn beautiful and fascinating to me. Meeting so many people who can accept, honour and celebrate the feminine and masculine within themselves without needing to box or label it...it was a total eye opener to me and allowed me to look inside myself and find a whole bunch of cool stuff I had ignored when I was fitting into that one little box.

j.
PS: I know a lot of people who'd agree with you on that dick thing. :)
October 21, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterJeanette
well, now that i know i have something called a sugar dish, ooh baby, i like THAT.

i also like the fact that i got to physically experience pregnancy and birth, sucky though i was at it for the most part...it still had its moments of sublime and of connection and breadth that blew me wide open in a good way.

i also like that at this historical juncture, being female affords me leeway to speak things that are less acceptable in a male...but i think that's always in shift and is cultural, not inherent. i'm of the spectrum way of thinking, generally.
October 21, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterbon
first of all...bravo

second....I have always said having a dick would be WAY more fun

third....I never thought being a girl was super awesome or super sucked. it's just "eh"

fourth....I think guys have it better BECAUSE they can do the "helicopter" or whack that thing to their stomachs, do "dick push ups" etc.... and they don't have to worry about shoving a living being out of their holes

fifth....no fifth, I just didn't want to leave it at 4 because that's bad luck in chinese or somthin.
October 21, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterRach
Reasons I like being a woman:

1. I don't have to deal with the kind of uber-competitive alpha-male relationships that men often have with each other.

2. I am not judged by my career and financial success in the same way that men often are.

3. I don't have to assume a cool "masculine" persona to be liked and respected by others.

4. I can do whatever I want. Stay at home mom, no problem! Corporate CEO, no problem! Organic farmer, sure! Construction worker, okay!

I feel that, at least in our society, being a woman gives me more freedom to be whomever I want to be. Masculine pursuits are respected, as are more traditionally feminine pursuits. I actually fear for my sons's future more than my daughters in a lot of ways.
October 21, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterEliza
"Then again, men get to do The Helicopter with their junk."

Gak!

*falls off her chair in laughter and wakes up sleeping husband*

(same husband who often imitates helicopters for fun)
October 21, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterDanielle
Oh, and as someone who recently got 7! mosquito bites on her bee-hind whilst peeing (for like 30 seconds! they must have been expecting me!) in the tall grass near the beach, might I add that it would be real nice not to have to bare it all in order to relieve myself?
October 21, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterDanielle
what this reader said:
"I like being a woman because I don't have a sweaty ball sack stuck to my leg all the time." especially on long roadtrips.

i remember being 7 and wanting to go shirtless like my brothers in our side yard and my dad saying "no. because you're a girl"

i've got nothing else. i'm an emotional wreck these days but i'd take that any day over being oblivious.

great post. you got me laughing yet again! thanks for that.
October 21, 2008 | Unregistered Commentercamerashymomma
I think I dig being a redheaded woman more than just a woman, to be totally honest. But, I haven't had any babies yet, so I'll get back to you on that. I also like that I can smile and get free coffee in times of emergency.
October 21, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterkara
You know what I like most about being a woman? I can wear a skirt OR pants and no one judges me or looks askance. That's pretty great.

Hoping the world will come around and men can do that too, but it's just not happening right now.
October 22, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterNo Mother Earth
friggin hilarious - the helicopter.

I agree with the multiple Orgasms though - just on the off chance that I might one day be so lucky, I say screw sweaty ball sacks stuck to my legs.

According to Shania Twain:

"The best thing about being a woman
Is the prerogative to have a little fun (fun, fun)
Oh, oh, oh, go totally crazy-forget I'm a lady
Men's shirts-short skirts
Oh, oh, oh, really go wild-yeah, doin' it in style
Oh, oh, oh, get in the action-feel the attraction
Color my hair-do what I dare
Oh, oh, oh, I wanna be free-yeah, to feel the way I feel
Man! I feel like a woman!"
October 22, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterTash
LOL. What can I say? I guess this one inspired my cruder side...hehe. That really is my hubby's excuse, even when its below freezing outside.
October 22, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterVicki
I don't especially go wow about being a woman, although I certainly don't mind...

I'd love to have a dick - but probably just for a while as they look too distracting! That "sex on the mind" thing must be frustrating, don't you think? And peeing al fresco is the only thing I've envied about men...

I've noticed a few things I would not like about being a man:
They go bald.
They can't grow or colour their hair.
No dresses or supportive underwear.

I cut and coloured my hair recently and my husband was all like "Wow, women are such chameleons, that's a totally different look! I wish I could do that." He could of course, but then I wouldn't want to be married to him!

My bloke doesn't do the helicopter, but I've seen a number in my time. Not sure that I miss it!
October 23, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterSaffa Chick
I'd like to agree with you. Maybe on another day I would. But really I'm thinking that if I would have been born with a joystick, a schlong, a stand up and pee pipe, I'd be a different (HA, almost said woman) person today. I see me in my son. The seed of me. And yet I see it growing into something different and I have to wonder if it's the schlong.

I would immensely miss my breasts if I were a man. And I'm afraid I'd be all out of sorts with the stuffing of IT into my drawers.
October 29, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterWoman in a Window
Sweet lord,
you had me at Sugar Dish.

love you
October 30, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterEve
I know I am commenting late on this, but I just had to mention "Puppetry of the Penis". Any latent desire I had to have a dick rapidly disappeared after seeing this show (okay-during the show). The idea that men can manipulate their junk into such odd, wacky and extremely uncomfortable (although entertaining in that "I can't help but turn and stare" kind of way) positions was quite the experience. Hmmm, as I write this my nine month old son is in his swing, grinning away at me and I just realized that all of this is in his future. I am a little creeped out at the moment but maybe helicopters are better than seeing him jerk on his junk like it is a bungee cord! Ouch!
November 24, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterChristina

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